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	<title>Comments on: Nice Web Type likes Bello Pro and Proxima Nova</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Brown</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philippe, thanks for the heads-up. I&#039;ll have to grab a nightly build and see what you see – I would hate to lose the &lt;code&gt;text-shadow&lt;/code&gt; trick.

Martijn, yikes! This comment form does have a few problems. Eventually I hope to have time to improve it. Meanwhile, sorry for the strange behavior. Thanks for telling me about the problem though – I&#039;ll be able to reference your comment as I code.

Divide, thanks! I&#039;ll let the Typekit folks know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philippe, thanks for the heads-up. I&#8217;ll have to grab a nightly build and see what you see – I would hate to lose the <code>text-shadow</code> trick.</p>
<p>Martijn, yikes! This comment form does have a few problems. Eventually I hope to have time to improve it. Meanwhile, sorry for the strange behavior. Thanks for telling me about the problem though – I&#8217;ll be able to reference your comment as I code.</p>
<p>Divide, thanks! I&#8217;ll let the Typekit folks know.</p>
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		<title>By: Divide</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>Divide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This specimen doesn&#039;t work (ie. it doesn&#039;t fetch the fonts) in Konqueror, whereas the previous ones did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This specimen doesn&#8217;t work (ie. it doesn&#8217;t fetch the fonts) in Konqueror, whereas the previous ones did.</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzalo González Mora</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzalo González Mora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for your links, Tim. I have really no idea about the technical aspects on creating a typeface and I have some doubts regarding that and the ClearType rendering; I think I will ask them in the Typophile thread. 

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for your links, Tim. I have really no idea about the technical aspects on creating a typeface and I have some doubts regarding that and the ClearType rendering; I think I will ask them in the Typophile thread. </p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Martijn</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Martijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The descenders (or bottom parts of the lettering) that are cut off can—atleast in my WebKit Nightly—be brought into view by selecting the text.

When I select the text and the content beneath it WebKit will also select (or at least highlight) the padding/margin in between. When doing this missing parts of the letterforms that should’ve been there in the first place are rendered.

Far from perfect and I too would wish to see this fixed but it will enable us to see them on the type example by &lt;a href=&quot;http://nicewebtype.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim&lt;/a&gt; already now.

On a whole different issue, I noticed when placing the above link that we can’t bind &lt;code&gt;title&lt;/code&gt; attributes to links. I wrote the following:
&lt;code&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://nicewebtype.com/&quot; title=&quot;Tim Brown&quot;&gt;Tim Brown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/code&gt;
This was rendered by Firefox (at least in the preview) as:
&lt;code&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://nicewebtype.com/%E2%80%9D%20title=&quot; tim=&quot;&quot; brown=&quot;&quot;&gt;Tim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/code&gt;
My guess is the system creating “curly”-quotes is a little too greedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The descenders (or bottom parts of the lettering) that are cut off can—atleast in my WebKit Nightly—be brought into view by selecting the text.</p>
<p>When I select the text and the content beneath it WebKit will also select (or at least highlight) the padding/margin in between. When doing this missing parts of the letterforms that should’ve been there in the first place are rendered.</p>
<p>Far from perfect and I too would wish to see this fixed but it will enable us to see them on the type example by <a href="http://nicewebtype.com/" rel="nofollow">Tim</a> already now.</p>
<p>On a whole different issue, I noticed when placing the above link that we can’t bind <code>title</code> attributes to links. I wrote the following:<br />
<code>&lt;a href=&quot;http://nicewebtype.com/&quot; title=&quot;Tim Brown&quot;&gt;Tim Brown&lt;/a&gt;</code><br />
This was rendered by Firefox (at least in the preview) as:<br />
<code>&lt;a href=&quot;http://nicewebtype.com/%E2%80%9D%20title=&quot; tim=&quot;&quot; brown=&quot;&quot;&gt;Tim&lt;/a&gt;</code><br />
My guess is the system creating “curly”-quotes is a little too greedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention: OS in my previous comment is OS X 10.5.7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention: OS in my previous comment is OS X 10.5.7.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The use off text-shadow on the &lt;code&gt;div class=&quot;bb&quot;&gt;&lt;/code&gt; results in pretty poor glyph display in the latest WebKit nightly builds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use off text-shadow on the <code>div class="bb"&gt;</code> results in pretty poor glyph display in the latest WebKit nightly builds.</p>
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		<title>By: mcloki</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>mcloki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Descenders broken in Safari Mac. So Typekit is a no go. 
Typekit is still a work in progress, but it shows promise. 
Keep up the good work. I really like the Nice Web type series.
Reminiscent of those great type specimin posters of olde.

If i had time I&#039;d love to try to make one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Descenders broken in Safari Mac. So Typekit is a no go.<br />
Typekit is still a work in progress, but it shows promise.<br />
Keep up the good work. I really like the Nice Web type series.<br />
Reminiscent of those great type specimin posters of olde.</p>
<p>If i had time I&#8217;d love to try to make one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Brown</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzalo and James: thanks! Regarding the rendering, you may be interested to read &lt;a href=&quot;http://typophile.com/node/60281&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what Typophiles think&lt;/a&gt;.

As for the lopped-off descenders (and sometimes more), I heard the Typekit folks are already working on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzalo and James: thanks! Regarding the rendering, you may be interested to read <a href="http://typophile.com/node/60281"" rel="nofollow">what Typophiles think</a>.</p>
<p>As for the lopped-off descenders (and sometimes more), I heard the Typekit folks are already working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proxima Nova renders okay in FF 3.51 (win) but looks like s**t in Safari 4 (win).

Additionally descenders on Bello Pro (all pt sizes) are cut off in FF 3.51 (win) and Safari 4 (win).

Awesome example of TypeKit though, wish it worked better on the windows based browsers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proxima Nova renders okay in FF 3.51 (win) but looks like s**t in Safari 4 (win).</p>
<p>Additionally descenders on Bello Pro (all pt sizes) are cut off in FF 3.51 (win) and Safari 4 (win).</p>
<p>Awesome example of TypeKit though, wish it worked better on the windows based browsers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzalo González Mora</title>
		<link>http://nicewebtype.com/notes/2009/07/24/nice-web-type-likes-bello-pro-and-proxima-nova/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzalo González Mora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The specimen looks lovely. I tried it on Firefox 3.5.1 and Safari 4.0.2 (Win) but the anti-aliasing is pretty bad. In Firefox it looks REALLY bad (I use ClearType on) and in Safari it&#039;s ok, but it should be a little lighter (I set it on Light under the font smoothing preferences).

Another thing I noticed is that the &quot;Filty&quot; heading is chopped at the bottom, weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The specimen looks lovely. I tried it on Firefox 3.5.1 and Safari 4.0.2 (Win) but the anti-aliasing is pretty bad. In Firefox it looks REALLY bad (I use ClearType on) and in Safari it&#8217;s ok, but it should be a little lighter (I set it on Light under the font smoothing preferences).</p>
<p>Another thing I noticed is that the &#8220;Filty&#8221; heading is chopped at the bottom, weird.</p>
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